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Poster: Thomas Mores Date: Mar 16, 2009 5:21am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Green Hornet

Hurray for Jungle Jane! Quigs shouldn't make so much fuzz. Even guys who live on a pension and work at a library 20 hours a week can have some respect for a poster. Be grateful, wait and see and don't ask silly questions.

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Poster: fedupwithgarbage Date: Aug 25, 2009 10:34am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Green Hornet

I have to agree with quigs on this one.

Jungle Jane: Uploading (notice it's spelled uPloading not uNloading!) only part of something is a waste of time, hard drive space and bandwidth. You would do well to not show your ignorance and just not comment any more.

jonc: It's not unreasonable to ask someone to finish what they started. "Free" or "Voluntary" doesn't have to mean "Sloppy" or "Junk". If people had the money to join Netflix they SURE wouldn't be HERE now would they? Besides, that was just a plain sarcastic remark to make and YOU will be the one that is ignored.

elmagno: Then you're saying that anyone that doesn't UPLOAD anything here doesn't have the right to comment on those that do? That would pretty much eliminate about 99% of the people that come here. Interesting philosophy.

Thomas Mores: If you thought Jungle Jane's comment was good then you have no credibility and I doubt I can say anything that you would understand....but I'll try. Respect for a poster is earned. It's not automatic. I have NO respect for someone that starts a series and doesn't finish it. Even if it is free. I also have no respect for anyone that thinks it's a "silly question" to ask someone if they are going to finish something they started. I do not subscribe to the "Well, it's better than nothing" attitude. I would rather have nothing.

I think that just about covered everybody. Y'all have a good day now, y'hear!

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Poster: Thomas Mores Date: Aug 25, 2009 11:56pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Green Hornet

Fedupwithgarbage: You are right; you cannot say anything that I would understand.

Have a good day too!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Aug 26, 2009 1:34am
Forum: feature_films Subject: fedupwithfedupwithgarbage Re: Green Hornet

I resisted replying to you previous posts.
Respect for the uploader may need to be earnt but it is a two way street. You have no right to demand higher quality versions and uploaders have no obligation to provide them to you. Uploaders are free to use the file formats of their choosing and preference.
As a regular contributor I quickly grow tired of users who make no other contribution than to make impolite demands on contributors. The only type of respect that this earns you is disrespect.
People are contributing thier time and movies from often valuable private and business collections. Collections that they are under no obligation to share. And, you get to download it all for free. Beggars can't be choosers.
I have no problem with people requesting movies. It is demanding movies or better quality copies that I have a problem with. If a file is not up to your standards of taste and quality you need to consider looking for some other way to get a more suitable copy. But beware, you may have to reach for your wallet.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-08-26 08:34:38

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Poster: cosmicolada Date: Aug 26, 2009 9:33am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: file formats. etc.

For my part I just want to apologize for any of my complaints about file formats. Despite using a few different conversion and DVD burning software programs, I have had a very difficult time making my own DVDs of certain movies and shows, but I always find that MPEG2 is never a problem for me. Still, I realize that because of the much larger MPEG2 file sizes, they require a lot more time and effort on the part of the uploaders. In any case, I want to express my gratitude to all of the uploaders, as well as my sincere apologies to anyone I might have offended with my complaints about file formats. I am truly grateful for the fun old movies and shows I have found on the IA.

c

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Poster: fedupwithgarbage Date: Aug 29, 2009 10:49am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: fedupwithfedupwithgarbage Re: Green Hornet

Video-Cellar:

It should come as no surprise that I totally disagree with you.

I am well aware of the time and effort it takes to capture/rip, encode and upload video to the internet. I am a regular contributor at many different sites. I have been to IA off and on for many years and not downloaded anything because the quality of the videos was usually garbage. I assumed that was because there must have been some sort of size limit on the files. It wasn't until recently that I saw some well done, good quality videos that I realized that file size must not be a problem. That only leaves uploader laziness and incompetence.

I had to laugh when I read, on your blog, that you "preserve some of these (movies) at Internet Archive".

If you truly ARE a collector then I would hope that you would agree that a blurry, low-bitrate, 320x240 .mp4 does not constitute a "preservation" of an old and rare movie. It does, however, provide people with a way to "preview" something that they might want to "reach for their wallet" and buy. From say, YOUR ebay store, perhaps? Otherwise the crappy videos that you upload are no more than an advertisement for someones business or a way to tell the rest of us "Nya, Nya! I have a good quality version of this and you don't!" (and then stick out your tongue).

Uploading a few crappy, blurry, hard-to-watch videos doesn't make you some kind of benevolent, God's gift to the internet that should be worshiped or praised. Beggar's CAN be choosers. It's not unreasonable to ask that you upload something in a quality that you yourself would want to download and keep.

As a matter of fact, The Internet Archives own FAQ page states:

"We encourage users making contributions to the Archive to create as high quality versions of their media as possible. As we know access is important and not everyone has a high speed connection, WE will take these archivable copies and create much smaller version for users with slow connections. Remember, a WAV file may seem big, but it won't be in 5 years. Further, you can always make lower quality files (e.g. mp3s) from higher quality files, but cannot go the other way."

I say again, "free" or "voluntary" does not HAVE to mean "garbage" or "junk". I see many "volunteers" here upload GOOD quality stuff! I guess it's what separates the REAL "preservationists" from the "look at me, aren't I great that I threw you little people some crumbs" uploaders.

And while I'm here, I also have a real problem with your so-called expertise on copyright law. I can imagine that the MPAA and the rip-off video companies just love it when you tell the IA that something someone has posted is copyrighted and they remove it. Whether it's true or not. Whole SLEWS of lawyers spend YEARS going to law school trying to decipher copyright laws and I can't say that I would go on the word of some unemployed, Australian "Occupation: Internet Retailer" with a blog and an ebay store as my "expert" on U.S. copyright law. Personally, I would just post it and wait for a "Cease and Desist" order.

I sure am glad that you couldn't resist responding to my post though.


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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Aug 29, 2009 11:34am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: fedupwithfedupwithgarbage Re: Green Hornet

The vast majority of film material that I upload to IA is in 640x480 WMV, MP4 or DIVX (generally with a 750 to 1500kbps bitrate) and a few Mpeg 2 files. I did upload a few files that were prepared for IPODs, etc. Generally, they are marked as intended for IPOD in the file info. Most of my classic TV uploads have been in 320x240 MP4 which appears to be the popular trend with Classic TV like OTR (lo-fi gives the impression of video tape quality). Again some are in higher res and there are a few Mpeg 2 files I uploaded to Classic TV. I haven't uploaded any serials.

The blog really only charts some of my uploads from last year. Most of my early posts of Australian cinema were uploaded in a lower quality at the request of print/tape owners who don't want commercially exploitable versions floating around the net. The Oz movies were uploaded at the request of an IA user and were sourced from various places around the net. I was also severely limited by internet bandwith problems when I started uploading. As such, I have been working on replacing some of my older uploads. I am doing it in my own time and was getting sick of people making rude demands on uploaders. That seems to me to be how we are losing some of our best contributors.

I think I would call myself a genuine film collector. I own copies of about 6500 movies of which about a quarter are public domain films. Any copy of a rare film is worth preserving/storing. If it happens to be in a lo-fi file I can't see any real reason why not to post it here and then replace it later if a better file becomes available. I think it is short sighted to look at movie preservation any other way.

I do sell movies on Ebay but they are generally not the movies I upload to Archive. From memory the only films I uploaded to IA that I sell on DVD are a couple of Charlie Chan and Sherlock Holmes films that some IA users asked if I could upload.

I only point out that a film is copyright if it is copyright. As far as I can tell the IA appreciates not having to wait for the C&D to come. It saves everyone trouble. As to the basis of my copyright knowledge. I've never called myself an "expert". I did study copyright in one of my degrees. This gave me a working knowledge of a number of national laws and international conventions. My particular interest has always been the US copyright system. While I am not overly well versed in case law, I have a good comparative knowledge of copyright and neighbouring rights in most western countries, especially on protection terms and what qualifies.

I wouldn't call myself unemployed. I teach, I study, I author DVDs, I collect movies, I have a blog I haven't updated for almost a year.


This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-08-29 18:34:15

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffLum Edwards Date: Aug 30, 2009 9:32am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: fedupwithfedupwithgarbage Re: Green Hornet

Sir Shane, I for one am very thankful you and your knowledge are hanging out here with us. I am pretty sure this is just one of the old trolls that has come back. The less said the better. I firmly believe the Do Not feed the trolls motto. If no responds to the bait this troll will leave.

Mike D.

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